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« on: July 05, 2009, 11:12:47 PM »
So my PS3 is being a coon. Basically I've had to disable wireless security to get it online. Currently downloading the latest update, then I'll install it, restart, enable wpa again and see what happens. I'm writing this thread just because I've got nothing better to do while the epic update D/L's. I'll post more as the saga develops... *sigh* god I'm tired Sad
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 11:44:05 PM »
Updated and it still fails. It looks like the PS3 will only support AES encryption for a WPA/PSK key. And our router is set to TKIP. It can't connect at all based on the error message I get, so it's not a bad passphrase or something simple like that. Fuck it, I'm going to bed. I'll browse Sony's site tomorrow. Some post somewhere suggested disable UPnP on the router, but the PS3 does support UPnP so I don't see how that could be the issue. If I find no fix on Sony's site tomorrow I'll give the UPnP procedure a go.
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Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 11:59:17 PM »
Apparently, according to the PS3 forums, WPA2 is too strong for the PS3 or something? Sounds like horseshit to me. The router is on WPA+WPA2 so... who knows. I'll try forcing WPA (not WPA2) tomorrow night when no-one's online again... see how it goes.

Now I really am going to bed.
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Our father, who art in leathers, Rossi be thy name.
Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 06:04:34 PM »
After thinking some more it occured to me only Leon's and Errol's PC's are wireless devices I don't own. Sarah is cat5 into the router, and my Wii and PSP I can set up. Which tool at Sony decided the PSP should support TKIP but the PS3, at more than twice the cost, shouldn't? It's horseshit. I'll change the router to AES at somepoint and see what happens.
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Our father, who art in leathers, Rossi be thy name.
Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 07:00:42 PM »
Turns out it was already on AES, my bad. I changed it to TKIP to try that and, not only did the PS3 still refuse to connect, my PC got disconnected too. Had to grab a cat5 and go wired... how archaic :p.

Anyway, I've put it (the router) onto WPA and WPA2. PC is back online with wireless (hence being able to post again Grin) but the PS3 still won't connect. I don't want to go WEP because it's shit. I'm considering it though, if I enable MAC restriction. I might give that a go next. I know it will connect with no security and MAC restriction but that's not a great solution as MAC addresses can be forged... hmmm... need to do more thinking Smiley
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Our father, who art in leathers, Rossi be thy name.
Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 08:01:20 PM »
Big win!

WEP with MAC restriction works a treat. I've set it back to WPA+WPA2 for now, until I can get the MAC's off Leon's and Errol's computer and change them to WEP. Knowing not much about wireless security I gave DatsunBen a call to get his opinions, he's using a 64-bit WEP key without MAC restriction, and he's been secure thus far. So, PS3 will be online soon. NFI why WPA/2-PSK won't work, but I don't really care either. lol. I just want to get to the Playstation Store and that sort of thing. Woot.
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Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 10:55:15 AM »
MAC adress spoofing is almost as easy as breaking WEP though.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2009, 12:50:11 PM »
Yeah but won't the hacker need to know one of our MAC's to spoof?
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Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 09:00:02 PM »
Nah, MAC adresses are part of the unencrypted information that sets up a connection, all they need is a packet sniffer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 09:43:33 PM »
Yeah fair enough. But once I have a connection it couldn't be picked up, so they'd have to be actively sniffing (after cracking the WEP) while I turn on one of the devices yeah? And surely the router is smart enough to know two connections can't have the same end point MAC? So they'd have to sniff when I turned on my PC (for example), get the MAC, and then use that to connect once I turned off my PC.

Is it really that unsecure? I'm pretty learner plated here lol.
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Our father, who art in leathers, Rossi be thy name.
Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 09:50:09 PM »
MAC stays unencrypted, easy to find, and yes, routers are that stupid.

wireless security is such a misnomer.

WPA2 through a RADIUS server is where it's at, but I've never even seen a RADIUS server.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2009, 10:47:47 AM »
Hmmm. So if I'm forced to use WEP is there even a point having MAC encryption?
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Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 07:26:57 AM »
Well, Kinda, they need more packets to sniff out all the information they need, but we're not talking a major difficulty increase....

I'd be finding a way back onto WPA.

My PSP does AES and TKIP, so I don't see why a PS3 can't....
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 10:11:44 AM »
Yeah so does my PSP. The PS3 apparently supports WPA (AES and TKIP) but it won't connect when I'm using any of them. NFI why.
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Our father, who art in leathers, Rossi be thy name.
Thy corner come, Thy kneedown done. In smooth tarmac is our heaven.
Give us this day our daily ride, and forgive us our wheelies, as we forgive those who wheelie against us.
And lead us not into the Police who are evil, but into the temptation of the redline.
For thine is the wheelie, the power, and the stoppie, for ever and ever.
Amen.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2009, 06:35:02 PM »
old thread but yeah had problems with ps3 as well and we now run one wireless router for the whole house on wpa2-psk for all clients,
its pretty far from the ps3 which has a crap wireless range anyway so ended up using an access point plugged into the ps3 via cat5 cable
with aerial to connect to wireless network with wpa2-psk security, using manual ip/dns/gateway/disabled dchp on access point and it works well. 
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